tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post1376798480804186945..comments2023-04-09T04:23:38.976-05:00Comments on Yoga-ish: Goa Recap #4KMBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13726597535792366632noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-11186815116018960872010-02-03T03:01:46.392-06:002010-02-03T03:01:46.392-06:00Forgot to thank you for posting the bit about slid...Forgot to thank you for posting the bit about sliding the forehead to the chin along the leg, interesting.<br /><br />I tried the 100 breath Utpluthi this morning. I've been doing 36 kapalbhati breathes, neither fast nor slow. This morning I sped them up as fast as iIcould and got the 100, that was a first for me so thanks for posting on that too.<br />I timed it. 10 fast kapalbhati breathes take me five seconds so 100 breathes 50 seconds though I think the last twenty breathes were a little slower so probably just under a minute, plenty long enough, not sure I'd want to do that every morning.Grimmlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301656317399292135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-25071556376589348392010-02-02T16:50:05.986-06:002010-02-02T16:50:05.986-06:00Hi Helen - the way we're most familiar with al...Hi Helen - the way we're most familiar with always seems to make more sense to us, doesn't it! I think my "way" is in the minority but luckily it's working out for me...I'm glad your practice is working for you too :-)<br /><br />Hi Liz - bad asses is right! 4 months for both series, my jaw dropped to the floor when she told us that. i can't even imagine...<br /><br />my word veri earlier was "dente" as in al dente pasta, mmmm pasta.KMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726597535792366632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-17216396347937161122010-02-02T10:48:08.487-06:002010-02-02T10:48:08.487-06:00okay, okay- in the context of learning it all in o...okay, okay- in the context of learning it all in one go, I can see (sort of) how the back bend fits in. And I am just talking about the back bend- not drop backs. <br /><br />Taking years to learn primary, then second, it would have felt weird to finally get to back bends after 5 years of practicing every day. But if it's within a span of a month or so, it would be reasonable. I forget the way the original group of bad asses learned!Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11185066123168375209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-91254852153307007632010-02-02T06:51:47.052-06:002010-02-02T06:51:47.052-06:00Hi,
Really enjoying reading about the retreat. It...Hi,<br /><br />Really enjoying reading about the retreat. It's interesting to read about the different approaches and interesting in that mostly we tend to like the approach we took. Reading about your experience it seems to have worked well for you.<br /><br />Hard to imagine a different path to the one you have been on. I found dropping back I went through a great deal of emotional healing. As I am now going through a similar but more intense thing with Kapo I am glad that I have already been through my drop back journey. <br /><br />But that's just me and my path, glad your practice is working for you. :)Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09327224567959171369noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-68143787498718263692010-02-02T04:19:29.484-06:002010-02-02T04:19:29.484-06:00Hi all - wow! 8 Comments already! I'm still on...Hi all - wow! 8 Comments already! I'm still on weird time so I went to bed early last night, sorry I missed this. Couple things to qualify what I've said above...<br /><br />- for me, the 80 breaths are the fastest human breaths possible, hahaha! It is not kapalabhati, but fast and with equal inhale/exhales. No headrush at all, I find quick breaths easier than slow. They are as deep as I can make em, but still much shallower than 25 slower breaths. Planning to work on deepening once I get past the mind-block of the number itself! :-) Again, not sure if it is correct, this is just how I'm tackling the increase. It does feel great actually, which makes me believe its good.<br /><br />- I like the idea of learning kapo before dropbacks, because it is a shorter way to the ground. However, this is how I learned it myself (so I'm biased) and I was extremely fortunate to pick up kapo very quickly. Had it taken me longer, I likely would have wanted to try something different.<br /><br />- Personally, I'm glad I had a couple years of UDs under my belt before starting 2nd. In her case, because both series were taught at once in such a very short period of time, a few weeks really, the timing of UD and kapo may be a bit less important than it is nowadays when we're talking months and years. SKPJ could have still been adjusting them into kapo right up until he taught them UD. It could have happened within days or weeks. <br /><br />- the splitting option I like the most is stopping at navasana and going to eka pada. Hadn't seen it before, and I love it!<br /><br />- thanks V for chiming in! <br /><br />- I agree, having fun and not taking things too seriously was hands-down the most important thing I learned during the retreat Grimmly! Better than all the asana advice and adjustments.<br /><br />- Nancy made it clear that this is just how she was taught, and that she teaches the way she was taught. She also said it's entirely possible that other master teachers were taught differently over the decades and that they are now teaching as they were taught. <br /><br />(some of this actually came out in later sessions but i'll share it now cause it seems relevant!)<br /><br />:-)KMBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13726597535792366632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-85883050028936492062010-02-02T02:57:03.357-06:002010-02-02T02:57:03.357-06:00Great post thanks for this. I'm with you and N...Great post thanks for this. I'm with you and Nancy of course on the back bending. Made such perfect sense to me to do Kapo before dropping back and coming up. It seemed like you were preparing so carefully for the shorter Kapo dropback. I remember the hard time I got for that too. That said I like UD as part of finishing from the start.<br /><br />I guess when you were learning them both together you were getting the 2nd series backbend work. Now you spend years with just the forward bends of Primary you need UD early.<br /><br />I like the bit on splitting etc too. Alternating Primary and Intermediate makes sense to me. I can see the point of focusing on 2nd say for a couple of years as you do with primary to make it strong but then alternate it. The 123,123 makes so much sense. <br /><br />Does everything come from no longer learning the two series together I wonder. The need for UD, for drop backs, for Sirasana etc. after Primary and the whole 5:1 ration when you do finally move on to Intermediate.<br /><br />And I love the bit on tone, on having fun with the practice, that comes through in those old demo videos on Youtube .<br /><br />Nice to read the old ways, more relevant to the home yogi's perhaps who have the freedom to choose which approach they want to take. Can see how it might cause confusion for the Shalas though.<br /><br />I have a couple of weeks off coming up, both you and V have got me thinking about making the trip to PV, thanks for that.Grimmlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301656317399292135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-49243412188603076152010-02-02T00:37:05.556-06:002010-02-02T00:37:05.556-06:00OMG I'm a spaz - I only just realised you'...OMG I'm a spaz - I only just realised you're back! Ugh! I was offline for a while and clearly didn't go back far enough in your blog to see what was going on....lewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110976237089976953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-39011282945103989082010-02-02T00:33:35.579-06:002010-02-02T00:33:35.579-06:00Hey Liz - I'm with you. Kapotasana is evil. pu...Hey Liz - I'm with you. Kapotasana is evil. pure, unadulterated evil. I had a panic attack in it last week and STILL haven't recovered.lewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110976237089976953noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-66368307202244477722010-02-01T23:01:33.187-06:002010-02-01T23:01:33.187-06:00of course it prepares you... Kapo is the hardest *...of course it prepares you... Kapo is the hardest *#%*@ pose in the series. Or is that just me? Seriously, though, if back bending is so advanced, what is 2nd series? A walk in the park, preparing one for the daunting back bend?<br /><br />I'm really not trying to be a jerk, I just do not get the common sense in this. I get why she and others may teach primary before back bending- or even the first bit of 2nd, but not all the way to Kapo.<br /><br />I promised myself I wasn't going to ask about this and here I've gone and done it. I'm glad you asked her- even though the answer is not satisfying! HA HA!!!Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11185066123168375209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-37758149357176091192010-02-01T22:44:05.598-06:002010-02-01T22:44:05.598-06:00Liz, I did ask that question and I can't remem...Liz, I did ask that question and I can't remember her exact words right now, but she pretty much thinks that the backbending sequence in Intermediate prepares you for good 'ole backbends!Vhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08535333817282471962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-14126162716075995102010-02-01T19:34:49.104-06:002010-02-01T19:34:49.104-06:00I would definitely get a head rush with fast breat...I would definitely get a head rush with fast breath! I'm very impressed with your 80. <br /><br />So no one asked why in the world a person would want to learn Kapotasana BEFORE a regular 'ole back bend??? This seems crazy to me. I like the current system. ha ha ha! <br /><br />Great notes- thank you!Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11185066123168375209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-86397159171652112572010-02-01T18:49:54.109-06:002010-02-01T18:49:54.109-06:00Cool!, thank you for posting :)
as per utplutih...Cool!, thank you for posting :) <br /><br />as per utplutihi, I can barely do 20, granted that is breathing slowly... but to even think 100... wow!Claudiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06609779915009954933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1649060071178250411.post-30889355537560401962010-02-01T18:45:25.279-06:002010-02-01T18:45:25.279-06:00Great posts - sounds like you're getting a lot...Great posts - sounds like you're getting a lot out of the trip. Y'know I keep hearing, again and again, that the whole ashtanga experience was less rigid a few decades ago. No UD until after all of second! Yet now it's no second until you can STAND form UD! Weird, isn't it?<br /><br />Interesting about utplutihi, too - I try to keep my breath fairly strong and not too fast. Do you get a head rush with the quick breathing? Is it kind of a kapalabhati breath? Or shallow?<br /><br />Keep up the trip reports!lewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18110976237089976953noreply@blogger.com